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Dragonfly ([personal profile] dragonfly) wrote in [community profile] genealogy2016-10-23 11:14 pm

My Cherokee Princess

Ha! I've always been just a bit scornful of the common myth that people have Native American in their family trees. We know that it's usually spurious -- as a general rule, European immigrants didn't "mix" with Native Americans. Yes, it's probably unprovable in my family, as well, but, well, here's what happened.

I was talking to my uncle about the things I've learned about our ancestors. I said something to him like, "You know what your father told me?" I was talking about the supposed Irish origin of our family (our name does not look Irish), but he said, "He told you he was 1/32 Indian?"

What TF?

Uh, no. I don't remember him saying that. Yeah, my uncle told me, his father -- my grandfather -- said he was 1/32 Native American, probably on his mother's side, since we can trace his father's side straight back to Ireland on almost all lines. We discussed it and decided that most likely one of my grandfather's maternal uncles told him they were 1/16th NA. So I calculated back from that generation, and I swear -- no joke -- I hit a generation where I don't know their parents. I just have nothing.

::hangs head:: so my family has the Native American ancestry legend, too. Of course, my DNA showed absolutely no Native American, so there's that.
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blueswan ([personal profile] blueswan) wrote in [community profile] genealogy2016-10-17 09:36 am

Genetic Genealogy Question

I've been satisfied with how Ancestry has shaken loose new information through my dna results. In an attempt to shake more loose, I bought a kit during the last sale and got my sister to test. (There are no relatives left from earlier generations.) That is not optimal but has resulted in more people to add to my tree. So I am pleased by those results.

I've also uploaded both results to Gedmatch. Gedmatch hasn't been as helpful to be honest. The good part is it reconfirmed several individuals for whom the paperwork also indicated a relationship. But I already has those results from ancestry. However, it was good to know ancestry results are valid.

I'm considering asking my brother's son to do a Y test. There is an ongoing surname project to which I'd like to submit his results. There are rumours about being related to some people in American history, about which I'm dubious. But, I'm just curious enough to see if that sort of test might break some walls down in my father's family, while also confirming or denying those rumours.

I've been thinking about doing a mitochondrial test using my sister's daughter. She is soon going to be adding another daughter to the line of women in my family. I can only get back to 1861 so far following my mom's matrilineal line. I'm stuck at my 2nd great-grandmother for whom I only know her first name and that she was born in the US, possibly in New York state. It's a brick wall that has stymied people who have been researching that avenue far longer than I have.

I know very little about genetic genealogy. I've joined some groups and I'm reading up on the subject, so I'm trying to learn more, but the curve is very steep from my perspective. My question is would testing a niece and a nephew help to put a crack in those particular puzzles at all? If so, which company should I test with and should I just do the MtDNA and Y tests, or full tests? From what I've seen the other companies charge a fair bit more for Mt and Y testing than Ancestry does for autosomnal testing. That's a factor I have to consider.

Thanks for reading.